Snowpack Summary March 1, 2024
Posted by Allen Giernet @ 8:30 pm (this summary expires in 24 hours)
This summary applies to backcountry areas only.
The Bottom Line –
The next winter storm is moving in. Wind Slab Avalanches will be likely at upper elevations on NE-N-NW aspects below ridges and along sides of gullies. These avalanches could be found on other aspects due to topographical influences. Look for drifted snow, scouring and textured surfaces, pillowed or smooth snow surfaces are all signs of wind transport snow and wind slab development. Storm Slabs will also be possible on all aspects and elevations that were still holding snow prior to the storm. The current forecast calls for 12"+ in the San Gabriel Mountains and 5-6" in the San Bernardino Mountains. All of this will be falling on a firm crust from the long warm dry spell that began last weekend. Poor bonding of the new snow to the old snow surface can be expected. Colder temperatures are expected with this storm and the old snow surface will freeze to a fast firm condition. Be prepared for varying surface conditions and the potential for slide for life scenarios until more snow collects on the surface. Safer travel and riding can be found by seeking wind sheltered terrain and slopes < 30°.
We are still operating on very limited on the ground data. If you are venturing out share any information you gather through the observation page. Submit Reports page.
Posted by Allen Giernet @ 8:30 pm (this summary expires in 24 hours)
This summary applies to backcountry areas only.
The Bottom Line –
The next winter storm is moving in. Wind Slab Avalanches will be likely at upper elevations on NE-N-NW aspects below ridges and along sides of gullies. These avalanches could be found on other aspects due to topographical influences. Look for drifted snow, scouring and textured surfaces, pillowed or smooth snow surfaces are all signs of wind transport snow and wind slab development. Storm Slabs will also be possible on all aspects and elevations that were still holding snow prior to the storm. The current forecast calls for 12"+ in the San Gabriel Mountains and 5-6" in the San Bernardino Mountains. All of this will be falling on a firm crust from the long warm dry spell that began last weekend. Poor bonding of the new snow to the old snow surface can be expected. Colder temperatures are expected with this storm and the old snow surface will freeze to a fast firm condition. Be prepared for varying surface conditions and the potential for slide for life scenarios until more snow collects on the surface. Safer travel and riding can be found by seeking wind sheltered terrain and slopes < 30°.
We are still operating on very limited on the ground data. If you are venturing out share any information you gather through the observation page. Submit Reports page.
Wind Slab avalanches are the release of a cohesive layer of snow (a slab) formed by the wind. Wind typically transports snow from the upwind sides of terrain features and deposits snow on the downwind side. Wind slabs are often smooth and rounded and sometimes sound hollow, and can range from soft to hard. Wind slabs that form over a persistent weak layer (surface hoar, depth hoar, or near-surface facets) may be termed Persistent Slabs or may develop into Persistent Slabs.
Storm Slab avalanches are the release of a cohesive layer (a slab) of new snow that breaks within new snow or on the old snow surface. Storm-slabs typically last between a few hours and few days (following snowfall). Storm-slabs that form over a persistent weak layer (surface hoar, depth hoar, or near-surface facets) may be termed Persistent Slabs or may develop into Persistent Slabs.
General discussion
After a warm dry spell winter returns. The new snow forecast will be falling on a melt freeze crust with poor bonding. Moderate to strong W- SW winds will move the light snow on to E - NE slopes developing wind slabs that could be found on other aspects due to topographical influences. If you trigger a wind slab, though it may be small it can knock you off your feet and carry you into more significant terrain. Also with the new storm snow forecast it can easily entrain fresh snow to develop into a much larger slide. This has happened several times in the past on the Baldy Bowl resulting in a long ride and injuries. With the cold temperatures expected the old snow surface will become firm and fast as the cold front moves in and can pose its own hazard with slide for life conditions. This is our biggest hazard in the So Cal mountains. Be prepared for variable surface conditions and changing conditions as the storm moves through. Forecast snow totals are from 5" to 12" by midnight Saturday night. If these forecast amounts do arrive, dangerous avalanche conditions will develop. Be cautious when entering into the mountains and travel safely by choosing wind sheltered terrain, avoiding slopes >30° and being prepared for firm conditions especially at the early part of the storm.
Please share any information when you are out in the mountains. Even a photo is helpful. Submit observations to Submit Reports page.
After a warm dry spell winter returns. The new snow forecast will be falling on a melt freeze crust with poor bonding. Moderate to strong W- SW winds will move the light snow on to E - NE slopes developing wind slabs that could be found on other aspects due to topographical influences. If you trigger a wind slab, though it may be small it can knock you off your feet and carry you into more significant terrain. Also with the new storm snow forecast it can easily entrain fresh snow to develop into a much larger slide. This has happened several times in the past on the Baldy Bowl resulting in a long ride and injuries. With the cold temperatures expected the old snow surface will become firm and fast as the cold front moves in and can pose its own hazard with slide for life conditions. This is our biggest hazard in the So Cal mountains. Be prepared for variable surface conditions and changing conditions as the storm moves through. Forecast snow totals are from 5" to 12" by midnight Saturday night. If these forecast amounts do arrive, dangerous avalanche conditions will develop. Be cautious when entering into the mountains and travel safely by choosing wind sheltered terrain, avoiding slopes >30° and being prepared for firm conditions especially at the early part of the storm.
Please share any information when you are out in the mountains. Even a photo is helpful. Submit observations to Submit Reports page.
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This Bulletin is designed to generally describe conditions where local variations always occur. Travelers are advised to exercise caution and make slope specific evaluations. As always, please treat this bulletin with appropriately guarded skepticism and make your own assessments. Help to provide more information to the community by reporting your observations
This Bulletin is designed to generally describe conditions where local variations always occur. Travelers are advised to exercise caution and make slope specific evaluations. As always, please treat this bulletin with appropriately guarded skepticism and make your own assessments. Help to provide more information to the community by reporting your observations
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Snowpack Location - Mt. Burnham - San Gabriels Date (yyyymmdd) - 20230423 Comment - April 22-23 2023 Long hauled 9 miles west of big pines for an overnight trip on the closed ACH. PCT hikers have just started to come through the area leaving somewhat of a worn path through still extremely deep avalanche run outs over the bench of ACH. The highway is still remarkably buried deep from BP to our destination 3 miles west of VG and beyond. Deepest is approx 25’+ under MB, which leads me to believe that we may not see ACH open until mid summer or not at all. The myriad of avalanche debris that are just now revealing themselves through the spring thaw is extensive and impressive. Above average temps and little to no refreeze below 9k yielded variable snow surfaces from hard fast firm to shin/knee penetration, even with ascension plates. Shallow glide cracks near and between steeper rock outcroppings were observed on some of the steeper north aspects approx 3-4’ deep. Wet loose instability was observed over the warm weekend will only small rider triggered slides no longer than the width of our boards on descent, and none of which ran further than 10-15’. There are still overhanging cornices that have yet to fail even under the late April sun angle and warm temps. Great corn to harvest when your descents are timed well. |
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General Caution
You should always use safe terrain management and carry avalanche rescue equipment in the backcountry. Most avalanches are triggered by someone in the party or the victim. Practice with your rescue gear often and be prepared should the worst happen. Though we do not have an avalanche forecast center in this area as of yet, the information posted and shared here as well as the resources available on this site will help to make informed decisions for your backcountry travels. Use avalanche forecasts in your travels wherever available and be aware that avalanche ratings are general information. Elevation, location, geographic variability’s, slope aspect and angle all have effects on the particular area you travel in. This is only one piece of the information you should use in your decision making process. There is no substitute for avalanche education, for more resources and information as well as education please refer to our resources page.
You should always use safe terrain management and carry avalanche rescue equipment in the backcountry. Most avalanches are triggered by someone in the party or the victim. Practice with your rescue gear often and be prepared should the worst happen. Though we do not have an avalanche forecast center in this area as of yet, the information posted and shared here as well as the resources available on this site will help to make informed decisions for your backcountry travels. Use avalanche forecasts in your travels wherever available and be aware that avalanche ratings are general information. Elevation, location, geographic variability’s, slope aspect and angle all have effects on the particular area you travel in. This is only one piece of the information you should use in your decision making process. There is no substitute for avalanche education, for more resources and information as well as education please refer to our resources page.